Menang CemeExecutive Producers Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse answer a fan question about “red herring.”
Bandar Ceme OnlineThanks to Nodecode for another summary.
– Sun and JinΓÇÿs deaths were meant to show that FLocke is really evil and that the show is really ending [nobody is safe]
– They will not talk about the next episode, but it is ΓÇ₧importantΓÇ£
– Frank was not mentioned on the beach by Hurley, Kate or Jack, because they wanted to focus the moment on the original characters who died and are more emotionaly appealing to the audience
– Why Kate is not a candidate will be addressed on the show
– ΓÇ₧RulesΓÇ£ which Ben mentioned to Widmore will not be specified directly, but might become more clear when the whole situation unfolds
– The whispers do not work for MIB, there is no link between them
– It is ΓÇ₧probably safe to betΓÇ£ that Hurley saw Isabella and not a manifestation of MIB
– The episode before the finale has the title the meaning of which might be surprising
– They are wondering when the people will stop calling them Darlton after the finale. Damon misses to be called Damon
Update: 21:00 Thanks to mattypoop for the summary.
-no more wondering who is good or bad. locke is bad, no more twists.
-anything is possible with deaths, dont rule out a big gun dying.
-hurley and kate didnt ask if lapidus was dead because sun, jin and sayid were more important and close to them. they specify that you didnt actually see lapidus dead.
-kate isnt a candidate and you will see why, its important to her story.
-when speaking of richard, darlton says “if hes still alive in the finale”.
-do the whispers work for MIB? no. any of the walking dead could have been MIB, but unless someone with the power, ie Hurley, sees them, then its not MIB for sure.
-ben and widmores rules, you wont know them, but there are rules. some might become clear by the finale. references the matrix reloaded and the conversation between Neo and the Architect.
-says the egyptians built the 4 toed statue, then damon questions it. sounded like carton shouldnt have revealed it.
Thanks to servicx for the heads up.
Why isnΓÇÖt Kate a candidate? What exactly are the ΓÇÿrulesΓÇÖ between Ben and Widmore? All of that and more in this episode! IΓÇÖm told this is the penultimate podcast.
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Thanks to Joe for the heads up.
Lost fans have less than 2 weeks before the 2 and a half hour series finale, but Executive Producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse already know what the island is all about. They stop by the studio to talk to Kevin Pereira about ending the series and what’s coming up next.
Bandar CemeThanks to Judy for the heads up.
Tonight’s episode, “Across the Sea,” focuses on Jacob and the Man In Black. When were these guys first conceived?
Lindelof: We had to start talking about the overall mythology of the island in greater detail in the cracks between the first and second seasons, before our characters went down into the hatch. That conversation basically kicked out into the other major arc of the second season. Which was: Who are the Others? Who are these other people on the island, and who was their leader? And who was he receiving his instructions from? By the time the show got into its third season, we started to hear references to this character, Jacob. And I think it’s safe to say that those conversations started then.
Do you think some fans get disappointed when they find out that everything wasn’t plotted out from the first episode?
Cuse: I think the answer is, once we announced the end date, I think a lot of those concerns went away. I can’t imagine that there are many authors that are able to, basically, conceive something entirely beforehand. We feel strongly that the show would be worse if we were just marching forward. The creative process is not like a situation where you get struck by a single lightning bolt. You have ongoing discoveries and there’s ongoing creative revelations. Yes, it’s really helpful to be marching toward a specific destination, but, along the way, you must allow yourself room for your ideas to blossom, take root, and grow. I think that’s how we approached the show: We had a rough idea of certain things, a specific idea about other things. Over six years, everything got a lot richer and fuller because we spent all that time thinking about the show and thinking about how to make the show better.
As opposed to someone like George Lucas who, today, claims he knew the entire arc of Star Wars when he was filming the first movie. Even his old interviews prove that’s not true.
Lindelof: Totally. The other thing is, we never had the hubris or the audacity to try and plot out too far in advance, because we didn’t even know if the viewers were going to want another season of Lost. Just to say in season three that we’ll end the show after season six, then people decide they hated the show in season four, there wouldn’t have even have been a season five. You have to focus on what’s in front of you. If J.K. Rowling was only thinking about the seventh Harry Potter book when she was writing the third one, she wouldn’t have been able to write the third one. You kind of have to say, “Hey, we have a cool idea for this character named Jacob and his nemesis, the Man in Black. But let’s not put that idea in front of the audience until we’re really ready to start telling that chapter of the story. We’ll allude to it, because we have it in mind. In the meantime, this chapter of the story is that the island is moving through time and that’s what the characters are dealing with right now. If you throw Jacob and the Man in Black into that story, people’s heads are going to explode.
If we were on a plane that crashed, we would certainly remember that flight number. In the flash sideways this season, Oceanic flight 815 didn’t crash, but everyone seems to remember their flight number. If we were approached and asked if we were on Delta flight 4367 two weeks ago, we would have no idea. Do either of you make a point to remember your flight numbers?
Cuse: You know, the thing that’s funny is that we fly to Hawaii, usually on the exact same schedule. So, yes, we fly United 81 out and United 82 back. What’s actually more disconcerting is when people see us and recognize us and we’re sitting on the plane. It does not make people happy to see that they’re flying on the plane with us. And Damon and I, on our last trip to Hawaii, we had the worst flight we’ve ever had over there. It was bumpy and rocky and just horrible for two and a half hours. We were like, “This would make a great story if this plane goes down somewhere over the Pacific, but we do not want this to happen.”
In last week’s episode, why didn’t Sun tell Jin to leave her so he could raise their daughter?
Lindelof: That’s a great question. And our only answer for it is that Sun only had about 30 seconds to process the fact that she was going to die. Sun and Jin never had a relationship together with that daughter. Sun had a relationship with her, but Jin did not ΓÇö she was just a picture on a phone to him. In that moment, she did not tell Jin to leave her side. Partially, in that moment, maybe there was a part of her that wanted him to stay with her. Who knows? We’re not really willing to say why characters don’t say certain things in certain moments. All we can say is: She did not say that. We did not want that scene to be about their daughter, we wanted it to be about them reuniting.
It was announced that the finale is going to be extended an extra half-hour, for a total of two and a half hours. Did that come from you or the network?
Cuse: Damon and I wrote the script and we were gently told by the network that they thought it was big. And we were like, “No, no, we’ll be able to get this all in there.” But we really wrote the script the way we wanted the script to be. Normally in television, you’re trying to execute a clear decision within a very specific guideline ΓÇö which is the running time of a one-hour episode. We really just sort of decided, “Let’s not worry too much about that, let’s just write the best version of the finale and we will figure out in post the time issue.” And when we finally saw a cut of the whole thing together, we were like, “This thing will not be as good in a two-hour running time.” We went to the network and said, “You know what? You guys are right, this thing is a little bit long and we think we can deliver you a much better version of it that’s two-and-a-half-hours long.” And they were totally supportive. They rearranged the schedule in order to give us a two-and-a-half-hour airing slot. We feel really excited about it; we think the finale is going to be so much better for that. It will really feel like a feature film.
We have a few questions from Vulture readers. TheCheese wants to know if there are any questions you hear a lot from fans that you wish they would stop asking?
Lindelof: Well, you know, they’re entitled to ask any question they want. But … it is hard to answer the 50th iteration of “When did you know this? When did you figure this part out?” The idea of having to explain our creative process as this sort of time-scale thing, so that people could look at it and say, “Oh, ah-ha, this is what they knew when they were making the pilot. This is what they didn’t know,” sort of takes the magic out of it and the fun out of it for us in the creative process. It makes us feel more like we’re in a senate hearing as opposed to, “Hey, we were doing our best to make the best show that we possibly could,” in a very short period of time, at first, and this is it. And no matter how many times we answer that question, it feels like there’s just a cynicism that emerges in terms of, you know, I feel like you guys are trying to put one over on us.
Well, sorry then about that whole Jacob, Man in Black question from before …
Lindelof: No, I mean, that’s what people want to know.
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Cuse: Personally, I haven’t heard that. I think that when all is said and done, at the end of the finale, we feel like we will kind of have serviced the characters to the best of our ability. We approach the characters as characters. We really don’t think a lot about if this is a male character or if this is a female character. We think about what the characters want. We feel, particularly for Kate, the rest of her journey in this series is a really, really good one. She’s sort of the lead female character, so we would hope that criticism would be abated by the time the series is over.
Chiyork is wondering if there are any characters you regret killing?
Cuse: At the very beginning of the series, we had these two beach extras ΓÇö we called them socks because they were kind of like sock puppets ΓÇö and one was named Steve and one was named Scott. And I think we regret the fact that one was called Steve and one was called Scott because we could never remember which one was which. And we could never remember which one we killed and which one we hadn’t killed. We may not regret killing Scott or Steve ΓÇö whichever one we did kill, I can’t even remember now myself ΓÇö[but] we should have named one a non “S” name.
Annetay knows there will be some questions left unanswered. Are there any questions left unanswered that you wish you would have answered?
Lindelof: We answered all the questions that we wanted to answer. And our rule has always been: We answer the questions that were important to answer for the characters on the show. If Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Locke, and Kate didn’t care about it … It’s not that we didn’t care about it, or that we don’t acknowledge that the fans are curious about it, but we didn’t answer it. That being said: There might, possibly, be some questions that we, as storytellers, will answer in the body of the show that might not be appearing in the finale. And that’s all we’re willing to say …